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Post by Hal » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:28 pm

I think the mission of science fiction is partly to develop scientific hypotheses in fictional form as a thought experiment.

I love sci-fi personally, and seem to recall geostatic (sic) satellites being written about by Arthur C Clark long before this was a serious commercial or military goal.It's a literary form for exploring ideas which aren't treated in 'mainstream literature'...but it seems to influence film makers out of proportion to it's fighting weight, as a percentage of all literature, I reckon.

I wasn't using 'sci-fi' as pejorative either. I know to be properly PC it's 'science-fiction'.... :mrgreen:
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Post by ChrisD » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:57 pm

If all these plastic nano particles are in everything we eat, drink and breathe then nothing is good for us ergo just eat and drink what you like, prost! icon_yo
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Post by Jamba » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:54 pm

Hal wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:28 pm
geostatic satellites
Tut-tut Mr Hal.
Geostationary, dontcha know :geek:

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Post by Jamstealer » Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:16 pm

Hal wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:28 pm
I think the mission of science fiction is partly to develop scientific hypotheses in fictional form as a thought experiment.

I love sci-fi personally, and seem to recall geostatic satellites being written about by Arthur C Clark long before this was a serious commercial or military goal.It's a literary form for exploring ideas which aren't treated in 'mainstream literature'...but it seems to influence film makers out of proportion to it's fighting weight, as a percentage of all literature, I reckon.

I wasn't using 'sci-fi' as pejorative either. I know to be properly PC it's 'science-fiction'.... :mrgreen:
I realise that; and I wasn't " dissing" Sci-fi; especially that written by true masters like Asimov, Dick, Arthur C, etc, who combined real scientific knowledge with futuristic philosophy ; and provide creative hooks for scientists and "scientific philosophers" to expand into further discussion. After all, as an example; Azimiv's 3 laws of robotics ( and the " zero'th law) form the basis for much theory on AI/robotics and its future: including discussing the point at which AI/robots become " beings" in their own right, and thus actually have " rights and responsibilities". It's a real legal question as we get further into the realms of autonomous machines. A simple case is who is responsible if an autonomous car kills someone in an accident; the owner, the passenger, the manufacturer, or the car itself?
Can a military or police AI robot be trusted to excersise its powers and decision making? Who is accountable for its actions?
Azimov's Hari Seldon ( Foundation series) developed " psychohistory" to predict and shape the actions of populations; the work of Cambridge Analytica in the US elections and Brexit referenfum was a simple version of it.
We quite regularly have renowned sci-fi writers at scientific innovation workshops and conferences. They provide lots of innovative thinking.

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Post by Dieselspanner » Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:14 pm

Ref this thread ONLY.....

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Post by Jamstealer » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:49 am

That's why it's so good ; in about 14 posts we have gone from German beer to " life, the universe and everything" ( the answer is still 42 , by the way) 👍

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Post by Hal » Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:42 am

Jamba wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:54 pm
Hal wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:28 pm
geostatic satellites
Tut-tut Mr Hal.
Geostationary, dontcha know :geek:
Oooops! :lol:

Yes you're right, it's a totally different thing.

Geostatic = lithostatic and is nowt to do with satellites. It's not the first time I've accidentally mixed the words....

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Post by Hal » Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:54 am

ChrisD wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:57 pm
If all these plastic nano particles are in everything we eat, drink and breathe then nothing is good for us ergo just eat and drink what you like, prost! icon_yo
or as someone else put it

"..so make the most of what we yet may spend
before we too into the dust descend,
Dust into dust, and under dust to lie
Sans wine, sans song, sans singer
and sans end...."

Possibly an unnecessarily pessimistic thought, maybe this is better?

"Clay lies still, but blood's a rover,
breath's a ware that will not keep;
Up lad! When the journey's over
there'll be time enough to sleep..."

The first ones easy, the second is less well known.

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Post by ChrisD » Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:33 am

Hal wrote:
Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:42 am
. It's not the first time I've accidentally mixed the words....
we're going to have to call you Monsieur Halaprop..
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