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Post by Hal » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:28 pm

FB....Bunk off? Yes...but it was about to wind up anyway (I think).

I had wanted to talk with the man, but I'd only had about 4 hours sleep the night before, and was totally mullered, having done a long ride on the bike during the afternoon with my buddy the mole from the Prefecture....and I imagine Stéphane was too, so, as we've been in email com for a while I thought I'd wait.

There are a lot of people who are beginning to think of this as WW3. Not a war between nation states, but think about it. It appears to be between multinational corporations and the global population.

Brave New World.

This rollout is designed to benefit only a tiny, minuscule few. It's fundamentally to do with 'Big Data', as admitted by the Pres of EDF/EDRF/ENEDIS ior whatever party mask they momentarily care to use. He said proudly, in a Big Data trade journal interview "We at EDF are now a player in Big Data, with, shortly, 35,000,000 receptors in France!"

Note well...'receptors' not nice cuddly furry electric meters. They are data collectors....

The seemingly laudable idea, as Dave R cited, of reducing national energy consumption has been proved to be a chimera....at the very most, being charitable, it would result in a saving of max 4%.

For which 4% we are paying.....how much? 11 billion euros or so for meters and microwave towers, (700,000 of the towers,) to be spread over the face of France.

The nett result?

Well.....big data recovery leading to big profits from sales of very precise, targeted marketing profile data to...whoever is buying.

With 'Smart' meters now being proven to be up to 600% apart in terms of accuracy when measured back to back on the same test rig at Dutch university labs, the nonsensical claims about 'precision billing' are finally laid to rest. The normally wildly higher readings benefit the remote power suppliers , their shareholders etc.

As this Blitzkrieg is being rolled out using sub-contractors apparently trained to use lies, intimidation, and actual physical violence, in order to get the meters installed before the mass have time to realise what is going on, it's clear that the instigators are fully aware of the likely reaction from said masses.

In Europe, the whole initiative derives from a 2008 EU directive.

Fine.

How is it, then, that the exact same thing has been happening in the USA and Australia, at the same time?

Who, an observer might ask, is pulling the strings?

Clearly some group who have the power to tell the EU what to do.....
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Post by FrancisBarnett » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:02 pm

Another side to the introduction of the linky meters is emerging.
Your puissance souscrite is set on your disconjocteur de branchement ( the preset maximum current set on the EDF circuit breaker that you are allowed to draw from the mains network according to what you pay).
Your existing main circuit breaker is a thermal device and is tolerant of peak overloads such as, for example, the starting current of an electric motor, you can momentarily overload it and it won't trip out.
Enter the Linky meter - it measures load electronically - exceed your puissance momentarily and it will cut out, and to prevent this you will need to increase your puissance souscrite and consequently increase your standing charge payment.
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Post by papasmurf » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:04 am

FrancisBarnett wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:02 pm
Another side to the introduction of the linky meters is emerging.
Your puissance souscrite is set on your disconjocteur de branchement ( the preset maximum current set on the EDF circuit breaker that you are allowed to draw from the mains network according to what you pay).
Your existing main circuit breaker is a thermal device and is tolerant of peak overloads such as, for example, the starting current of an electric motor, you can momentarily overload it and it won't trip out.
Enter the Linky meter - it measures load electronically - exceed your puissance momentarily and it will cut out, and to prevent this you will need to increase your puissance souscrite and consequently increase your standing charge payment.
I can see that leading to major protest in the streets.

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Post by FrancisBarnett » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:36 am

Here is the instruction manual for the new Linky meter - single phase version.

http://www.enedis.fr/sites/default/file ... nglais.pdf

And the three-phase version here:-

http://www.enedis.fr/sites/default/file ... nglais.pdf
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Post by papasmurf » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:01 am

FrancisBarnett wrote:
Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:36 am
Here is the instruction manual for the new Linky meter - single phase version.

http://www.enedis.fr/sites/default/file ... nglais.pdf

And the three-phase version here:-

http://www.enedis.fr/sites/default/file ... nglais.pdf
Do those come in Breton?

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Post by Hal » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:08 am

FB, This is one of the points covered by Stéphane Lhomme on Saturday evening.

He cited a couple in their 80s, who had a Linky installed in their cellar.

Never previously troubled by power cuts or, in this case, simply the meter tripping out, they found they were having to go down into the cave 8 times a day to reset the fabulous new Linky.!

Handy...something to look forward to for all of us.

They complained to Enedis, only to be told "it's your own fault, your appliances are too old, get some Smart replacements....or, short term fix....go up a tariff. Of course, it's more expensive, but think of the trouble you'll save!"

This is the standard response.

We also heard something about the curiously pro-Linky behaviour of "Que Choisir".

It seems they have (allegedly) been offered the wonderful opportunity of cheap rate electricity to re-sell to their faithful readership!

Of course, this does put them in a difficult position vis-a-vis Linky....they can't really oppose it.

Assuming this is true, I rather doubt QC approached Enedis cap in hand for this deal....I'd say Enedis' marketers are selecting key organisations to get at in any way possible.

It appears the Prefectures have instructed the Police to draw up lists of reg numbers of attendees at the anti-Linky meetings, what next, Brave New Gulags in France?

This is shaping up as one of the defining initiatives of the 21st century.

Global corporations with the velvet glove off....

I've almost finished the bombshell book by Dr Samuel Meerham, "Dirty Electricity" in which as the leading US epidemiologist of his time he did a report for the US aluminium and steel industry, in which he showed the alarming link between the EMF produced in the 'pot rooms' and the equally alarmingly high rates of cancers in the workers.

His report gave the risk factor as for the sake of illustration, 10.

Then the British epidemiologist Sir Richard Doll produced a contradictory report which he could make no sense of, effectively a whitewash, giving a risk factor of 4.

He knew Doll, who was apparently a responsible medical scientist.

When Doll then died, it came out that he had been on a retainer from Monsanto of 1500 USD per day for years....

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Post by guzzigui » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:47 am

Hal wrote:
Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:08 am

Then the British epidemiologist Sir Richard Doll produced a contradictory report which he could make no sense of, effectively a whitewash, giving a risk factor of 4.

He knew Doll, who was apparently a responsible medical scientist.

When Doll then died, it came out that he had been on a retainer from Monsanto of 1500 USD per day for years....
And that is it just there; the reason more and more people have become cynical about science. Man's biggest weakness - Greed, he sacrificed all his principals and ultimately his reputation for the filthy lucre. Alternatively perhaps he never had any principals to begin with and he should never of gone into science, banking perhaps.

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Post by Hal » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:19 am

"Dirty Electricity" is really essential reading, given the insane situation we are now in.

Meerham is categorical. His data indicate a close linear rise during the 20th century between "the diseases of modern civilisation" and the progressive electrification of the USA.

They installed a 60Hertz system there, here it's 50Hertz, but the EM backwash into your domestic wiring is similar. This is what the US industry refer to as 'Dirty Electricity'.

The book ends

"Unless public outrage intervenes, I'm afraid our "diseases of civilisation" will only get worse. Good science alone is never enough to force sensible public policy.

Only citizens can do that."

I have a strong feeling he's absolutely right.
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Post by FrancisBarnett » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:28 am

Do those come in Breton?

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Post by Hal » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:24 am

Just perfect! Fabulously timed, thank you EDF.

As if it needed reinforcing, EDF have kindly given us, this morning, proof positive of their being a bunch of disorganised, rapacious dolts....to put it very charitably.

We have just received by recorded delivery, a 'dernier avis avant poursuite Contrat Resilie'.

They want us to pay 11,639.00 euros.

This is for 12 factures dating back to May 2014. The facture for November 2015 is for 8164€ (apparently for one month)

These all relate to a building which we used as an office, in Oradour sur Vayres, for no more than 2 years dating from 2003!!!

They know this perfectly well, as my wife has told them so, repeatedly.
I think the best response is no response....let the stupid bastards take it to Tribunale!

We will certainly have a lot more of this sort of cretinous behaviour once the "Intelligent grid" swings into life...

....Meanwhile, for anyone out there still clinging resolutely to this myth about 'savings'....read this article!

http://www.lavoixdunord.fr/132698/artic ... multipliee

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