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Post by FrancisBarnett » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:49 pm

Monday morning last at 08.10 we lost power, internet, landline phone, and all mobile phones as a result of the storm.
We were reconnected this morning at about 11.am but still do not have a mobile signal.
The cause was falling trees and branches taking down overhead low voltage power lines as usual.
Our neighbour is employed by the commune to look after the elderly in their own homes - housekeeping, social and personal care etc.
She said that a lot of her regular round that she has charge of have all electric cooking and heating, and were having to eat canned cold food.
No bread available locally - the local boulangerie shut down - no power to bake.
No landline phone line operating means that those of the elderly that have the emergency alarm sytem cannot use it in case of illness or accident.

The huge amount of money that ERDF/ ENEDIS are spending on fitting Linky meters would be better spent putting local overhead lines underground to give a measure of protection against this type of storm damage - it won't eliminate it entirely, but would help.


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Post by richard36 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:54 pm

Well said Francis

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Post by wizzard » Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:06 pm

My last electric bill was a "catch up" from a previous estimated one, and was 267 euros. EDF kindly took the same amount out of my account TWICE within a day. When I complained they refunded the extra payment reasonably quickly, but what if they had done the same thing for a few million customers - the interest on that even for a few days would soon add up - or maybe they are doing it on a rolling basis as a way to fun the new meters! :x
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Post by Hal » Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:22 pm

Ditto to that, FB!

Couple of new developments today.

I received another mail from Stéphane Lhomme, which I'll post here.

Basically it seems that Michel Tubiana, Président d’honneur de la Ligue de Droits de l’Homme (LDH) , has had a go at Stéphane, after the LDH did a recent 180° demi-tour on their position against Enedis, and are now supporting the roll-out....

Very suspicious behavior...one might almost think they had been , err, how shall I put this....ah hell, use your own imaginations! :mrgreen:

Here's the link.... http://refus.linky.gazpar.free.fr/ldh-agresse.htm

Also, a rather neat reminder....by a young lady with the interesting nom de guerre "Enfant de la Patrie" who has today sent it to 'La Liberté' and other press outlets...
Aux Elus de toutes les communes de France.

Ceux qui ont vécu, de près ou de loin, la chute du mur de Berlin, se souviendront sans doute que les régimes que nous qualifions de "totalitaires", du mauvais côté du mur, s'auto-proclamaient "Démocraties populaires".

Je m'étonne aujourd'hui des agissements pour le moins autoritaires que cautionnent la dite République française.

Le fait d'actualité auquel je fais référence est le suivant;

Tout les ménages français, sur toutes les communes, se voient subitement sans aucun préavis, installer de force et sans possibilité de refus, un nouveau compteur électrique (soit disant gratuit).

Plusieurs usagers ont découvert le nouveau gadget mis en service, lorsqu'ils ont constaté avec étonnement une hausse spectaculaire de leurs factures d’électricité (+150 %).

D'autres se plaignent à leur mairie de ne pas vouloir changer un compteur en parfait état de fonctionnement, et ne rencontrent de la part de leurs élus qu'une réaction de passif mépris.

Enedis vous confirme si vous appelez; l’installation est gratuite et le refus n'est pas possible.

-Qui donc va payer cette consommation massive de nouvelles installations si ce n'est le consommateur?

-Qui à demandé ce grand progrès technologique, qui nous est imposé comme une réforme non pas matérielle seulement, mais politique?

-L'attitude Démocratique, ne serait-elle pas plutôt de "proposer" un bien de consommation au consommateur, avant de rentrer de force chez lui pour l’installation, suivi d'une facturation sous la forme d'une location vraisemblablement plus chère qu'avant...?

De la même manière qu'on utilise nos boites aux lettres pour recevoir nos factures d’électricité, Enedis et nos élus devraient les utiliser, pour envoyer un sondage dans chaque foyer, pour savoir si oui ou non nous voulons changer notre compteur dont l’espérance de vie est de 60 ans, pour un tout neuf, ayant une durée estimé de 15 ans???

Si ceci n'est pas fait, bien qu'il soit déjà trop tard pour beaucoup, alors nous pouvons nous interroger, la république française est-elle Démocratique?

Pour ne pas passer mes vacances au goulag, je souhaite rester anonyme.

Cordialement,

Enfant de France.
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Post by Hal » Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:57 pm

Interesting....(Que Choisir content)...mail just in...
Also--for the conspiracy minded (like myself) if you google
enedis and que choisir at in the same search, you find that que choisir
repeatedly and adamantly tells you that you cannot refuse Linky.
(name redacted)
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An unfortunate incident ... http://www.realahune.fr/compteur-haute- ... -marie-re/

...and a good site ... http://lescitoyenseclaires.org/index.html#qui

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Post by Hal » Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:20 pm

...and another informative article, this time in English! It has a good precis of the 2012 Bioinitiative Report.

https://www.westonaprice.org/health-top ... -so-smart/

An extract...
7. Are there any known health effects related to smart meters?
Answer: There are over 6,000 studies showing biological effects from the same form of radiation that smart meters invisibly emit – commonly known as “electro-smog” pollution. Additionally, thousands of people across the United States, Canada and Australia have become ill once smart meters have been installed on their homes. Medical doctors and scientists around the world are speaking out on the dangers of smart meters. Smart meters emit radiation continuously and cannot be turned off at night when radiation is the most dangerous for the body and brain. Comparatively, a cell phone – which emits radiation at levels hundreds of times lower – can be turned off when not in use.

Secondly, smart meters generate what’s known as “dirty electricity” radiation pollution throughout your home, because of the switching-mode power supply that they utilize. An “opt-out” to a wired digital meter still produces dirty electricity. Only a non-digital analog meter does not produce dirty electricity.

An individual opt-out still exposes you to the radiation from the neighbors’ meters and other grid infrastructure. And every smart meter in your neighborhood adds to the dirty electricity in your home, even if you opt out, because all neighboring homes share the same power substation.

“We have noted from previous health hazard histories such as that of lead in petrol, and methyl mercury, that ‘early warning’ scientists frequently suffer from discrimination, from loss of research funds, and from unduly personal attacks on their scientific integrity. It would be surprising if this is not already a feature of the present EMF controversy as it seems to be still a common practice as has been recently reported in Nature.”

Professor Jacquie McGlade, executive director of the European Environment Agency, 15 September 2009

8. How many pulses of radiation does my smart meter emit per day?
Answer: Wireless smart meters around the world have been shown to emit between 5,000 and 190,000 pulses per day. Your utility may state they only transmit 45-60 seconds a day. This is because they are only adding up the millisecond pulses that occur constantly throughout the day. What they are not telling you is that the pulses occur every few seconds, which means that the meters are constantly emitting microwave radiation. Your smart meter is continuously communicating with hundreds of other smart meters, grid infrastructure, and in the future, all appliances in your home.

The levels at which a single smart meter emits radiation can be more than 80 times higher than recommended safety levels based upon current published science. (Examples: www.BioInitiative.org, and http://www.baubiologie.de/site/english.
php)

In addition to current health risks, unless the smart meter programs are stopped, you will eventually have 10-20 appliances that each emit a pulse of radiation every few seconds in order to communicate wirelessly with your smart meter. This will fill your home with even more dangerous pulsed microwave radiation affecting your entire family.
“There is no substitute for a roll back of all Smart Meters at the community level, or higher.”
Ronald Powell, PhD Applied Physics, “Biological Effects from RF Radiation at Low-Intensity Exposure, based on the Bio-Initiative 2012 Report, and the Implications for Smart Meters and Smart Appliances”, 2013

9. Have smart meters been proven to be safe?
Answer: No. The smart meter industry has not released one actual study on whether smart meters are safe for human beings. They do not want to look at something that would damage their business. This is the case even though thousands of people have become ill once smart meters were installed on their home and so much science shows that microwave radiation is dangerous.

It is interesting to note that smart meters do meet federal agency “safety” guidelines. However, the FCC and others’ guidelines are not actually meant to protect our health. In fact, they are only meant to protect from acute tissue heating and electrical shock over several minutes. They are not meant to protect humans from the long-term, non-thermal levels of microwave radiation emitted by devices such as smart meters. In fact, there are no true governmental safety standards that govern smart meters. The utility company is misinformed or simply lying when they say they are safe because they meet the FCC guidelines.

“If a manufacturer wants to give a product to a consumer, especially in this case to everybody – imposed on everybody—they are the ones who should carry the burden to prove it’s safe before they can give it to the people. It’s not up to consumers to demonstrate they are unsafe.”

Dr. De Kun Li MD PhD MPH, senior research epidemiologist, Kaiser Permanente Division of Research, in Take Back Your Power

10. Are utilities getting financial kickbacks for forcing smart meters on everyone?
Answer: Yes. As Time Magazine has reported, in the United States eleven billion dollars of taxpayer funds (though there are reports that this is a conservative estimate) were spent as “incentives” for utilities to attempt to force the installation of smart meters upon all of their customers without their consent. As this money is divided amongst all utilities, many energy providers are actually receiving hundreds of millions of dollars in compensation, but first they have to install the meters.

As this sort of incentivizing, perhaps also called bribery, is happening in similar fashion in many other industrialized countries, the multinational smart meter/smart grid initiative could potentially turn out to be the largest attempted financial scam in modern history.

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Post by FrancisBarnett » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:31 pm

Smart meters can't add up properly:-

https://www.utwente.nl/en/news/!/2017/3 ... onsumption
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Post by Hal » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:58 pm

FB, That's not untrue! :mrgreen:

Yesterday evening I went with my daughter to a presentation/debate with the Resistance leader Stéphane Lhomme, in a university amphitheatre in Angouleme.

It was the second gig he'd done in the same day, the first being mid afternoon in dept 79.

He turns out to be a very cool character, absolutely not the sort of polemic spouting swivel eyed type that the pundits for Enedis might like to imagine, and his PowerPoint presentation of over 2 hours had the audience of over 200 cheering spontaneously.

It was leavened with a surprising touch of humour, and was far from the didactic, dry fare I'd thought it might be.

Excellent job all round.

We were told by other people in his team that the Gendarmes (or perhaps the Police) had turned up in force at the earlier meeting and ostentatiously taken down the registration numbers of all the cars in the car park!

They were surrounded by the resistance cell members and forced to tear up the list.....

We are going to organise a nice relaxing bus trip to Paris, the 22nd (Tuesday) for the big demo against this blitzkeig of idiocy, timed to coincide with a jamboree for Press, TV et al for the AMF (association des Mairies de France)....the above having sent out a warning to Mairies who try to protect the interests of their electorate by deliberating against the forced fitment of these EMF radiating things in our houses.

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Post by FrancisBarnett » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:26 pm

Two hours of powerpoint? And you didn't bunk off?
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Post by papasmurf » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:38 pm

Hal wrote:
Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:58 pm

They were surrounded by the resistance cell members and forced to tear up the list.....


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